Arek'Jaalan Mailing List W5: Recent Thoughts

From	Roga Dracor
Subject	Recent Thoughts
Date	113.08.10 14:48
Content	I am sorry to have missed the meetings, but, I have been unavoidably preoccupied with a planet side matter. I am eager to catch up on what has transpired. Indeed, I do have a few points to bring up. First, I would like to commend ALL of the volunteers at Arek'Jaalan, your service has been magnanimous, so far. While we may not answer to the validity of the Amarrian deity, we will certainly push forward the bounds of scientific certainty. Second, as many of you have been expecting, likely with healthy doses of antacids and minor astringents, I have a proposition to forward. I would like to add the Jove to the study fields within the Ancient Races Department, our own retrospective of the “only” ancient race we have first hand knowledge of. With all the pertinent links to Concord's own databases, of course. How do we know that some of these ancients are not the discarded ruins of a Jovian Empire? Simply put, we do not. It bears reflecting on, that the Talocan show evidence of cloaking technology in reverse engineered hybrids like the “Smokescreen” cloaking system. We know of only one other race that possessed that technology in the ancient past. The Jove. During their first empire, the Jove committed their bloodlines to forced wholesale genetic manipulation. Imprisonment? Cultural Exchange? Lastly, on the minor controversy of my attempts to define the relics I have been studying, I use what knowledge is available to me, and I admit, I am still human, sort of. So, I could be mistaken. You, my fellow researchers, may hold insights I am not privy to. I invite you all to approach the task logically and add to my own meager, and perhaps misguided, understanding of the items presented. “Hunks of metal and wire” does little to quantify ideas. The truth is out there, and Arek'Jaalan may be our best hope to uncover it. On a related tangent, the Binary Transpositional Code indeed looks like a very promising lead, and directly influenced my choice to include an analysis, I hope that by catagorizing these items, we will find the clues to move us forward.

From	N'maro Makari
Subject	Recent Thoughts
Date	113.08.10 15:11
Content	Am I the only one who thinks its a tad careless to announce this over public comms? What with the Jovians being theorised to have ears in the highest levels and all. That is not to mention, of course, that the Jovians themselves dont seem to keen on cooperating. N'maro Makari

From	Myyona
Subject	Recent Thoughts
Date	113.08.10 21:07
Content	They will proberly find it interesting to be the ones studiet for once. I agree to add the Jovians to the Ancient Races section, and I prefer it will happen when a discussion on the topic of the Jovians possible relation to the Sleepers and Talocans has been put together. Regards Myyona

From	Planetary Genocide
Subject	Recent Thoughts
Date	113.08.10 21:09
Content	We are technically all "ancient races"... the Jove just managed to avoid declining back to cavemen throwing rocks at each other when the EVE gate collapsed.

From	Roga Dracor
Subject	Recent Thoughts
Date	113.08.10 21:29
Content	True, and I have expressed the desire for the Project to someday turn it's attention to the current factions in New Eden, as well.. I just believe, as per my original message, that the Jove need to be addressed soon. The cursory evidence shows that there COULD be ties, and I agree with my department head, its should be discussed at large, and I would like Dr. Tukoss' input..

From	N'maro Makari
Subject	Recent Thoughts
Date	113.08.11 17:13
Content	I dont think my message got through first time so I will spell it out: - We know little about the Jovians. - The Jovians do not want us to know more than a little. - The Jovians are more than capable of keeping us knowing little. This project has enough problems finding dead mysteries, let alone catching live ones. We have neither the time nor the resources to esablish an entire subdivision for the Jove.

From	Unit XS365BT
Subject	Recent Thoughts
Date	113.08.11 19:51
Content	We note that the suggestion was to add the Jovians to the Ancient Races division. This is, in our opinion, correct. The term 'ancient races' is itself a contraction of the term 'Ancient Spacefaring Races' meaning those races that were in space prior to the emergence of the 4 empires as the current primary governing bodies of the cluster. This project was created to research these races, among other things, refusal to research the data available on the Jove removes one potential avenue of scientific study and lowers the credence of those theories which could in some way entail Jovian actions. It is apparrent that a large portion of the information regarding the Jovians has been deemed classified by the directorate, however, this should not deter the project from research into those aspects that are not classified. Should the Jove have discernable problems with the avenues decided upon for research, we believe they would utilise their ambassador and notify the project. We Return.

From	Myyona
Subject	Recent Thoughts
Date	113.08.11 22:52
Content	What theories people want to research into or not is not my issue; I care for the quality of the presented research. I can already see from the discussion we are having here that listing a few things about the Jovians is quite important. The Jovians are far from as suspicious and far away as some might think. I can get more into that later. Choosing to study the Jovians will certainly not be an easy task, but so can be said for many other things in this project. There is always a risk so that part is nothing new. I also think people should inform themselves by reading the Ancient Races portal page. They will learn that the Amarr Empire is more "ancient" then the Takmahls, who barely fit the label. Perhaps somebody will find interest in studying old Amarrian history in relation to the Sleepers and Talocans. If they do, I would make no objections to host it in the portal page either. Regards Myyona