Difference between revisions of "Talk:Band of Brothers (Player alliance)"

Latest revision as of 08:24, 7 February 2010

Military Campaigns

I think that events like the MAX Campaign should be moved to their own articles, where they can remain fairly impartial. Particularly where the events are subjective and opinions come from multiple sources. --FireFoxx80 18:53, 13 December 2008 (UTC)

I do think that alliance conflicts should be noted in their pages, but I agree with the partiality portion. Cal Hydar 19:14, 13 December 2008 (UTC)

I agree that a summary of the alliance conflict should be given, and then covered in greater detail in specific campaign pages. At present, the campaign history is incomplete and confused. Sandy Brown 07:19, 24 December 2008 (UTC)

Correcting Links

Please do correct links, I added the correct links for Triumvirate. (Player alliance) and GOODFELLAS (Player alliance) --KayTwoEx 22:24, 13 December 2008 (CET/UTC+1)

Is there some particular reason the link to "Greater BoB Community" (in the introduction) is literally to "Greater_BoB_Community" and not to "GBC" as the follow-up acronym is? It looks like an error, so I'm correcting it, but if it was that way on purpose, please explain. MailDeadDrop 17:45, 16 January 2009 (UTC)

Autolinking

I spent some time ridding this article of redundant links (after cleaning it up), but upon resubmittal, I found that most of the redundant (and just plain wrong) wikilinks returned. This seems to be not only default behaviour, but instead forced.

While the autolinking might make it possible to write a better integrated article, the way it works - in my opinion - does more harm than good.

Compare the current revision to the draft, with most redundant/irrelevant wikilinks stripped. Elyon Itari 12:06, 14 February 2009 (UTC)

Logo

There was no logo available, so I have replaced the ugly wikicode that was showing with the default alliance logo. Daquaris 11:24, 24 December 2008 (UTC)

Removal of section

Could the admin who checks this page for the current edit please remove the entire War History section. I copied the rewrite from a sandbox I had setup, and accidentally included the top section of the page. Sandy Brown 08:10, 13 January 2009 (UTC)

Writing style of this and possibly other alliance pages

I noticed last edit on this topic was to change more Role playing styled description of history into more game machical. It's true that BoB at the time had more SP than Goonies, but maybe trying to keep the facts there and using better wording would be nicer.

Example edit from history below:

When BOB attacked, Goonswarm collapsed under their superior tactics and ships. BOB stripped their region bare. Goonswarm fell back to S-U where BOB camped them down until they crawled back East to find sanctuary.

Became:

When BOB attacked, Goonswarm were beaten back by their higher SP players in expensive T2 ships. This was effective due to the relative youth of most of the players in Goonswarm as at the time T2 snipers could not be countered easily with T1 ships. Goonswarm fell back to S-U where BOB camped them down until they moved back East to wait out the BOB attack in their NPC stations.

I think maybe the edit should be:

When BOB attacked, Goonswarm were beaten back by their more skilled players in expensive T2 ships. This was effective due to the relative youth of most of the pilots Goonswarm didn't poses the training to pilot ships that could counter this tactic. Goonswarm fell back to S-U where BOB held controll of space until they moved back East to wait out the BOB attack in their NPC stations.

The small differences are using pilot instead of player and actual wording instead of acronymes.

--Bashar Miles 18:26, 3 February 2009 (UTC)

This seems like a decent idea, as it might make EVElopedia more enjoyable (and thus easier) to read, without sacrificing very much hard data. Elyon Itari 12:33, 14 February 2009 (UTC)

Abbreviations

A thought - and this might be applied to all (or at least most) articles - is to have acronyms explained the first time they're used. Examples;

• expensive Tech 2 (T2) ships or expensive T2 (Tech 2) ships
• a large Starbase (POS, Player Owned Structure) fell victim or a large POS (Player Owned Structure) fell victim or even a large Player Owned Structure (POS)

Incidentally, since POS or Player Owned Structure is almost always used in favour of Starbase, why is the latter the article's title? It just seems odd to me to maintain both notions of the same thing (unless they are not the same, in which case they should have separate articles).

Furthermore (on Player alliance and Player corporations), I think some sort of consistency on when to abbreviate would be in place. Now, it makes sense to abbreviate BoB in the article about it (since it is used in every other paragraph), but I think most other alliances, corporations and coalitions ought to have their ticker introduced the first time they're used, and henceforth be written out completely, except where this becomes overly extensive.

(Perhaps this ought to be taken to a more general talk page.) Elyon Itari 12:33, 14 February 2009 (UTC)

Bob is dead

Someone could indicate it as such :)--Jason Edwards 02:49, 5 February 2009 (UTC)

funny as it may be to have the whole article in past tense, let's at least give it a few days, man. I'm thinking the article should be locked for a couple of weeks -Stitcher 13:01, 5 February 2009 (UTC)

Someone should make a separate article on the event causing BoB to be dissolved. Verx Interis 00:05, 6 February 2009 (UTC)

I agree with both.. making it writen in past tense and making whole different topic of the latest developments as it's stilla topic at hand and hasn't been writen totally yet. --Bashar Miles 16:12, 8 February 2009 (UTC)

Seems a bit silly that 90% of the article doesn't relate to BoB, but to a former alliance that just happened to have the same name as the BoB corporation.

Are former alliances really that notable? Walmatar 11:23, 7 March 2009 (UTC)

If you want to make a corporation page for the BoB corp, then do so. History is kept on this wiki because people enjoy reading about it. It's part of game lore and draws people's attention. As for the acronym BoB, you know as well as I do that over the years, the acronym BoB has been used in reference to the alliance. However, I do think the redirects can be removed that point BoB to this page. There should be no redirects for Band of Brothers, since there are now two topics concerning the name. --Cal Hydar 11:33, 7 March 2009 (UTC)

Facing Reality

The current article is out of date and should probably be moved to another article under another name like Band_of_Brothers_History and could be linked in the beginning of this article. I've seen it been done on wikipedia it usually says in italics something like "For other uses, see _Band of Brothers History_.".

And/or there could be a disambiguation page with a link to each article.

I believe the actual Band of Brothers alliance should have this page. They are currently at war with Goonswarm. I'm not sure what the policy on dead alliances are.

http://evemaps.dotlan.net/alliance/Band_of_Brothers

-Moon Kitten, February 7 2010