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::None from us [[Contributor name:ISD Erilus Nex|ISD Erilus Nex]] 20:52, 12 December 2008 (UTC) | ::None from us [[Contributor name:ISD Erilus Nex|ISD Erilus Nex]] 20:52, 12 December 2008 (UTC) | ||
| − | == | + | == Redesign and restyle == |
| − | This template could use with a redesgn and restyle. This section is meant as open discussion about what should and shouldnt be included. [[Contributor name:DrAtomic|DrAtomic]] 13:57, 20 December 2008 (UTC) | + | This template could use with a redesgn and restyle. This section is meant as open discussion about what should and shouldnt be included, intermediate code can be found here: [[User:DrAtomic/Sandbox|DA's Playground]]. [[Contributor name:DrAtomic|DrAtomic]] 13:57, 20 December 2008 (UTC) |
=== Restyle === | === Restyle === | ||
Restyle it to be more consitent with the EvE Online look and feel. | Restyle it to be more consitent with the EvE Online look and feel. | ||
| − | Examples: [[Template:Character]] and [[Template:Player Corporation | + | Examples: [[Template:Character]] and [[Template:Player Corporation]] |
=== Redesign === | === Redesign === | ||
Reorder and add: | Reorder and add: | ||
| − | * | + | *Alliancelogo (default logo needed) |
| − | * | + | *Alliancelogo caption for adding comment if desired |
*Name {{{name}}} (bold) | *Name {{{name}}} (bold) | ||
*Ticker {{{ticker}}} (bold) | *Ticker {{{ticker}}} (bold) | ||
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*Public Channel | *Public Channel | ||
*Alliance Leader | *Alliance Leader | ||
| − | *Diplomacy (avoiding term diplomat since it could be diplomats or diplomatic relations because it's too long) | + | *Diplomacy (avoiding term diplomat since it could be diplomats or diplomatic relations because it's too long) , opted for Diplomat(s) in the end. |
| − | *Renting (lists persons to contact about renting space) | + | *<strike>Renting (lists persons to contact about renting space) </strike> |
*Website [{{{website}}} {{{website}}}] | *Website [{{{website}}} {{{website}}}] | ||
| − | *Killboard | + | *<strike>Killboard</strike> Most if not all websites have a link to their kb or there only is a kb. |
--- Members --- | --- Members --- | ||
*Executor [[{{{executor}}} (Player Corporation)|{{{executor}}}]] | *Executor [[{{{executor}}} (Player Corporation)|{{{executor}}}]] | ||
*Corporations {{{corporations}}} corporations | *Corporations {{{corporations}}} corporations | ||
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| + | :Proposed changes implemented updating alliance pages. [[Contributor name:DrAtomic|DrAtomic]] 23:24, 20 December 2008 (UTC) | ||
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| + | :Alliance pages updated (those that used the old template). [[Contributor name:DrAtomic|DrAtomic]] 01:20, 21 December 2008 (UTC) | ||
| + | ::These changes have, several times, been disagreed with (namely the redesign aspect). Contact information likewise. CCP seem destined to never enable external images, so I'm giving up on the image being ID-based. To hell with trying to make life easy for YARR/ISD, let's just make this utter bloody chaos. This template should be using the same style as other templates, namely the turquoise style which is consistently used across all other templates, rather than using a style that adds 10+ kilobytes of crap to every page it's on. --[[Contributor name:Ix Forres|Ix Forres]] 04:02, 23 December 2008 (UTC) | ||
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| + | ::: NOTHING USES THIS STYLE (the turquoise) EXCEPT YOU!!!! LOOK AT THE MAIN PAGE! SAME STYLE AS DR.ATOMIC! [[Contributor name:kalanosh|kalanosh]] 08:50, 24 December 2008 (UTC) | ||
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| + | :::: Out of all discussions that were held about it the majority (everyone bar you and one other) said they'd prefered the grey style (eve online) over turquoise one with the ms office icons in front of it. So the style change was put through as suggested by you, be it that it had a different out come then what you suggested. | ||
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| + | :::: 10 kilobytes of added code is nothing in these DSL days so I can't really see that as an argument. | ||
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| + | :::: It may come as a surprise but I'd honestly like to see the image id thing work as well as other parserfuntctions related things, I would however prefer it to point to CCP's image server instead of an external source for longlivety. [[Contributor name:DrAtomic|DrAtomic]] 14:48, 30 December 2008 (UTC) | ||
Latest revision as of 05:52, 26 December 2011
A bug means that Contents area is included in table. Closed still shows even if omitted. Would be nice to have space for alliance logo.--FireFoxx80 13:49, 12 December 2008 (UTC)
- Yeah, I see what you mean... I'll see what I can hack out with parserfunctions in a bit (if they're installed? For some reason CCP decided to hide that stuff, so I have no idea, I'll have to poke around.) Daquaris 19:20, 12 December 2008 (UTC)
- *sigh*, it seems that parserfunctions aren't installed, so, we can't make templates that are smart enough to tell if certain attributes are specified. Daquaris 19:22, 12 December 2008 (UTC)
- Shouldn't be that hard to add to mediawiki from what I remember, and it would be immensely useful to have on here --Ryushe 19:24, 12 December 2008 (UTC)
- Indeed, it's VERY easy to install. It's one of the standard things I install on every MW setup I do :) Daquaris 19:27, 12 December 2008 (UTC)
- I've already made this request to ISD and it's been passed onto the devs. We'll see what happens. However, I believe that the Table of Contents related bug is unrelated to parserfunctions. --Ix Forres 20:15, 12 December 2008 (UTC)
- Could be the very old version of MediaWiki too :P Daquaris 20:16, 12 December 2008 (UTC)
- I've already made this request to ISD and it's been passed onto the devs. We'll see what happens. However, I believe that the Table of Contents related bug is unrelated to parserfunctions. --Ix Forres 20:15, 12 December 2008 (UTC)
- Indeed, it's VERY easy to install. It's one of the standard things I install on every MW setup I do :) Daquaris 19:27, 12 December 2008 (UTC)
- Shouldn't be that hard to add to mediawiki from what I remember, and it would be immensely useful to have on here --Ryushe 19:24, 12 December 2008 (UTC)
- *sigh*, it seems that parserfunctions aren't installed, so, we can't make templates that are smart enough to tell if certain attributes are specified. Daquaris 19:22, 12 December 2008 (UTC)
Fix for TOC issues
I've rewritten this table in wikitable syntax at Template:Player Alliance/Rewrite. I've also fixed the TOC issue in this proposed rewrite, if memory serves, it's related to the<h3>tags (a bug in this older version of mediawiki), so, you'll have to substitute bold and bigger sizes for a H3. I haven't put the rewritten version in place yet, since I wanted to see what people thought. Daquaris 20:33, 12 December 2008 (UTC)
If this page isn't needed any more leave me a comment and I can delete this one and rename the other one. ISD Erilus Nex 20:49, 12 December 2008 (UTC)
- The template should simply be substituted in; the usage section remains the same. I will merge this in if there is no objection --Ix Forres 20:51, 12 December 2008 (UTC)
- None from us ISD Erilus Nex 20:52, 12 December 2008 (UTC)
Redesign and restyle
This template could use with a redesgn and restyle. This section is meant as open discussion about what should and shouldnt be included, intermediate code can be found here: DA's Playground. DrAtomic 13:57, 20 December 2008 (UTC)
Restyle
Restyle it to be more consitent with the EvE Online look and feel. Examples: Template:Character and Template:Player Corporation
Redesign
Reorder and add:
- Alliancelogo (default logo needed)
- Alliancelogo caption for adding comment if desired
- Name {{{name}}} (bold)
- Ticker {{{ticker}}} (bold)
- Type (0.0, anti-pirate, lowsec piracy, highsec piracy, empire, roleplay)
- Founded {{{founded}}}
- Status (Active or Closed)
--- Contact Information ---
- Public Channel
- Alliance Leader
- Diplomacy (avoiding term diplomat since it could be diplomats or diplomatic relations because it's too long) , opted for Diplomat(s) in the end.
Renting (lists persons to contact about renting space)- Website [{{{website}}} {{{website}}}]
KillboardMost if not all websites have a link to their kb or there only is a kb.
--- Members ---
- Executor [[{{{executor}}} (Player Corporation)|{{{executor}}}]]
- Corporations {{{corporations}}} corporations
- Proposed changes implemented updating alliance pages. DrAtomic 23:24, 20 December 2008 (UTC)
- Alliance pages updated (those that used the old template). DrAtomic 01:20, 21 December 2008 (UTC)
- These changes have, several times, been disagreed with (namely the redesign aspect). Contact information likewise. CCP seem destined to never enable external images, so I'm giving up on the image being ID-based. To hell with trying to make life easy for YARR/ISD, let's just make this utter bloody chaos. This template should be using the same style as other templates, namely the turquoise style which is consistently used across all other templates, rather than using a style that adds 10+ kilobytes of crap to every page it's on. --Ix Forres 04:02, 23 December 2008 (UTC)
- NOTHING USES THIS STYLE (the turquoise) EXCEPT YOU!!!! LOOK AT THE MAIN PAGE! SAME STYLE AS DR.ATOMIC! kalanosh 08:50, 24 December 2008 (UTC)
- Out of all discussions that were held about it the majority (everyone bar you and one other) said they'd prefered the grey style (eve online) over turquoise one with the ms office icons in front of it. So the style change was put through as suggested by you, be it that it had a different out come then what you suggested.
- 10 kilobytes of added code is nothing in these DSL days so I can't really see that as an argument.
- It may come as a surprise but I'd honestly like to see the image id thing work as well as other parserfuntctions related things, I would however prefer it to point to CCP's image server instead of an external source for longlivety. DrAtomic 14:48, 30 December 2008 (UTC)