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Can someone change 

"A result was got, there is a Cosmic Signature of some sort in the system."

to

"The scan produced a result, indicating that a Cosmic Signature of some sort is present in the system"

Or something less... crappy.--[[Contributor name:Chrome Tsunami|Chrome Tsunami]] 11:15, 11 March 2009 (UTC)

== -lateration vs. -angulation ==

I'd just like to point out that the new system uses quadrilateration (ie, using distances to find locations) instead of trianguation (ie, using angles to find locations), like is mentioned multiple times on this page.

:Actually, I think its Trilateration, not quadrilateration
:--[[Contributor name:Alezra|Alezra]] 21:58, 13 March 2009 (UTC)

::Trilateration uses 3 spheres (hence tri) to find a location on a plane.  In 3D space, 3 spheres will only narrow it down to two possible points (which you see in game when only 3 probes intersect), so technically the game doesn't use trilateration since 4 probes are required
::[[Contributor name:Bel Amar|Bel Amar]] 20:53, 14 March 2009 (UTC)

:::After you have two solutions with Trilateration you're able to add a fourth sphere in order to eliminate one possible answer. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Trilateration
:::Quadrilateration is the name of something completely different.
:::--[[Contributor name:Alezra|Alezra]] 23:39, 14 March 2009 (UTC)

::::Also, this repeated reference to "triangulation" is increasing player frustration with the new system (http://www.eveonline.com/ingameboard.asp?a=topic&threadID=1024488). Increased frustration with the new system decreases ingame fun. Calling it GPS or Radar would have been equally bad.
::::Ingame and inwiki it would therefore help to simply refer to the system as Quadrilation, as you said (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Multilateration). 
:::: ---

== Two Pages? ==

This page seemed to have popped up. Is it really necessary to have this page with http://wiki.eveonline.com/wiki/Exploration:_Apocrypha already in existence? I suggest someone goes and merges this page with the other one.
--[[Contributor name:Pennwisedom|Pennwisedom]] 17:23, 13 March 2009 (UTC)

== Missing section on how to center the screen. ==
I still haven't figured out how to reliably center the map on a certain point to enable easy screen rotation.  Can you please add something like that?

* Clicking on a celestial object centers on the object. Also, clicking on the probe label next to the probe, centers on that probe. --[[Contributor name:Nareg Maxence|Nareg Maxence]] 17:49, 13 March 2009 (UTC)

== Cosmic signatures are no longer within 4 AU from a planet ==

According to comments by CCP Prism X here

http://www.eveonline.com/ingameboard.asp?a=topic&threadID=1022106&page=1#12

and here

http://www.eveonline.com/ingameboard.asp?a=topic&threadID=1022106&page=1#21

the distance to nearest planet now depends on the type of signature and can be more that 4 AU away. --[[Contributor name:Nareg Maxence|Nareg Maxence]] 17:46, 13 March 2009 (UTC)

: Removed the misleading info. --[[Contributor name:ISD BH Lenider|ISD BH Lenider]] 21:32, 13 March 2009 (UTC)

== is it just me or is the text lines abit to long ==

I can't read this page on a 19"  and it looks bad if i print it, plz clean it up abit

:This seems to be a problem with Internet Explorer and the large images. Opera and Firefox display the page correctly. I have no idea on how to fix it... --[[Contributor name:ISD BH Lenider|ISD BH Lenider]] 14:39, 17 March 2009 (UTC)

== need to fix old scanning guide ==
[[Scanning_Guide]]

== Missing "group" explanations ==

It would be very useful if this page also explained what kind of site the various groups are. I have no idea what a LADAR site is for example.

== Probing ==

Is there a way to have this as a training video?  I know you can find videos on youtube but, can't CCP make the video, be more authentic.

DukeSerranova

Loyal EVE Capsuleer

== A bit that's misleading ==

If my understanding and experience with probing is anything to go by, I think there are a couple of bits in this article that are misleading with regard to the red spheres that appear inside a probe's scan range.

The article suggests that the location of your target is somwhere WITHIN that red sphere, as suggested in this text:

"It can be near either one of the outer planets within range of the original probe, or it might be close to the cluster of planets near the center point of the original probing location."

I think this is wrong.  The possible locations of the site are anywhere on the SURFACE of the red sphere, give or take a bit according to scan accuracy, as the probe only knows the rough distance to the site.

Hence, further into the example, the probe site is actually nowhere near the centre of the system, it's on the opposite site to the two planets and exactly where it should be given the original single probe's red sphere surface.

Don't mean to be pedantic but this might make people launch loads of probes inside a red sphere without them realising that the site will always be somewhere around the edge of it and not actually IN it.

TG

== No mention of shift-clicking to move all probes at once! ==

This tip is very useful and greatly helps to reduce probing time. It should be mentioned somewhere in the article that holding shift while moving a probe will move all probes at the same time.

== Tip to add ==

It's possible to use the directional scanner in order to find out if another player is trying to probe your ship. Simply set the directional scanner to 360 degrees, and set the range to something around 1-2.5AU (150,000 km - 375,000 km) and scan.

Make sure the "use overview settings" checkbox is unchecked.

If anyone is trying to probe you down, you should see Combat Probes listed in the scan results.

== Page Name ==

Shouldnt it be changed to just "probing" .... we're way past Apocrypha. Also naming convention... --[[Contributor name:ingenting|ingenting]] 09:31, 14 December 2009 (UTC)