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<BR/>See also [[CSM Meeting Minutes 4.001 raw log]]
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<BR/>Meeting Minutes: 2009/12/05 15:30
==Attendance==
*Present
[[Contributor_name:CCP Xhagen|CCP Xhagen]], [[Contributor_name:ElvenLord|ElvenLord]], [[Contributor_name:Alekseyev Karrde|Alekseyev Karrde]], [[Contributor_name:Zastrow J|Zastrow]], [[Contributor_name:TeaDaze|TeaDaze]], [[Contributor_name:Korvin|Korvin]], [[Contributor_name:Z0D|Z0D]], [[Contributor_name:Song Li|Song Li]], [[Contributor_name:Sokratesz|Sokratesz]], [[Contributor_name:Helen Highwater|Helen Highwater]], [[Contributor_name:T'Amber|T'Amber]], [[Contributor_name:Meissa Anunthiel|Meissa Anunthiel]], [[Contributor_name:Serenity Steele|Serenity Steele]], [[Contributor_name:Dierdra Vaal|Dierdra Vaal]], [[Contributor_name:Vuk Lau|Vuk Lau]], [[Contributor_name:Omber Zombie|Omber Zombie]]
*Absent
[[Contributor_name:Mrs Trzzbk|Mrs Trzzbk]], [[Contributor_name:Farscape Hw|Farscape Hw]]
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=Discussion=
===Welcome===
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[[Contributor_name:CCP Xhagen|CCP Xhagen]] began as Chair of the meeting and welcomed everybody. He stated the meeting was to elect vice-chairman, secretary and the vice-secretary. Additionally he wanted to reiterate the point I made in the welcome email about CCP wanting to emphasize more on 'larger' issues and less on the 'smaller' topics.
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<BR/>[[Contributor_name:Alekseyev Karrde|Alekseyev Karrde]] and [[Contributor_name:ElvenLord|ElvenLord]] asked for clarification on this
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<BR/>[[Contributor_name:Alekseyev Karrde|Alekseyev Karrde]] > my understanding of the mail was that small issues were OK, but that we would filter them too you further in advance so they could be dealt with quick if possible, leaving time for the bigger issues to be discussed thoroughly
<BR/>[[Contributor_name:Alekseyev Karrde|Alekseyev Karrde]] > ah, was that a correct understanding y/n?
<BR/>[[Contributor_name:CCP Xhagen|CCP Xhagen]] > [[Contributor_name:Alekseyev Karrde|Aleks]]: they are perfectly valid as topics - it is just the matter of putting them on an agenda just so the answer can be 'this is now in the backlog' to be the answer is counter-productive in our opinion
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<BR/>[[Contributor_name:ElvenLord|ElvenLord]] > All "small" issues can be put in packages and delivered to CCP, if as mentioned they are in the lines of "put that button there"
<BR/>[[Contributor_name:ElvenLord|ElvenLord]] > for bigger issues we could get the same principle if they are related
<BR/>[[Contributor_name:CCP Xhagen|CCP Xhagen]] > [[Contributor_name:ElvenLord|ElvenLord]]: indeed
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<BR/>At this point [[Contributor_name:CCP Xhagen|CCP Xhagen]] handed the meeting over to [[Contributor_name:ElvenLord|ElvenLord]] as incoming chairman.
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<BR/>[[Contributor_name:Z0D|Z0D]] wanted confirmation on roles
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<BR/>[[Contributor_name:CCP Xhagen|CCP Xhagen]] confirmed that Vice-chairman steps in when the chairman isn't available. The secretary handles all the meeting minutes and the act of posting them and the Vice-secretary steps in when the secretary isn't available. He also warned that it is said the secretary is the busiest role of them all.
<BR/>[[Contributor_name:Helen Highwater|Helen]] asked if Alternates could take on these roles but [[Contributor_name:CCP Xhagen|CCP Xhagen]] said those positions had to be filled by delegates.
<BR/>[[Contributor_name:Omber Zombie|Omber Zombie]] and [[Contributor_name:Meissa Anunthiel|Meissa Anunthiel]] had some first hand information on the job of Secretary
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===CSM 4 Roles, Discussion===
<BR/>With no further questions [[Contributor_name:ElvenLord|ElvenLord]] opened the floor for suggestions on who to fill the roles.
<BR/>[[Contributor_name:Zastrow J|Zastrow]] nominated himself for vice-chair as the only incumbent
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<BR/>[[Contributor_name:Sokratesz|Sokratesz]] had a question on scheduling as did [[Contributor_name:Alekseyev Karrde|Alekseyev Karrde]]
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<BR/>[[Contributor_name:Sokratesz|Sokratesz]] > how often are meetings called on average, because i wouldn't mind doing the reports, but i'm very busy with my masters programme
<BR/>[[Contributor_name:Alekseyev Karrde|Alekseyev Karrde]] > I'd like to follow up on Sok's Q and ask if meetings go till the adgenda is done or do they have a time limit.
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<BR/>As outgoing Chairperson, [[Contributor_name:Dierdra Vaal|Dierdra Vaal]] was on hand to reply
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<BR/>[[Contributor_name:Dierdra Vaal|Dierdra Vaal]] > as a reply to sok - we had meetings once every 2 weeks. You will have to decide how often you want to do your meetings, but less than once every 2 weeks would really not be advisable.
<BR/>[[Contributor_name:Dierdra Vaal|Dierdra Vaal]] > as for [[Contributor_name:Alekseyev Karrde|Aleks]]eyev's question, we just did the entire agenda in our meetings
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<BR/>There was then a minor derailment and a discussion broke out over the use of ! for "wish to speak" or using something like google wave as a platform for the meetings.
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<BR/>[[Contributor_name:Song Li|Song Li]] > We're vering massively off topic. If we want to discuss alternate comms and stuff that's for another time. Can we please return to the agenda to get it out of the way.
<BR/>[[Contributor_name:ElvenLord|ElvenLord]] > ./signed
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<BR/>[[Contributor_name:Meissa Anunthiel|Meissa Anunthiel]] > Also would make the minutes making practically impossible, unless you want to publish the wave, but that'd require the eve populace the minutes are meant for to have wave access, which is not possible for everyone as it's not "public" yet. But discuss that next meeting
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<BR/>[[Contributor_name:CCP Xhagen|CCP Xhagen]] > [[Contributor_name:Song Li|Song Li]] just stole my line. I'd suggest getting the positions filled and then safe this discussion for later. You CAN change the speaking method if you wish - just remember that you have to work under the method.
<BR/>[[Contributor_name:ElvenLord|ElvenLord]] > OK, can we move on from this topic and form CSM 4 pls
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===CSM 4 Roles, Voting===
<BR/>[[Contributor_name:ElvenLord|ElvenLord]] > We have a vice-chairman, secretary and his deputy to elect. Lets go with vice-chairman first
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<BR/>[[Contributor_name:Alekseyev Karrde|Alekseyev Karrde]] indicated his interest in the position but didn't want to nominate himself, so nominated [[Contributor_name:Z0D|Z0D]], because of his initiative making the meeting 2 agenda thread
<BR/>[[Contributor_name:Song Li|Song Li]] nominated himself due to a solid background in running boards and meetings.
<BR/>[[Contributor_name:TeaDaze|TeaDaze]] nominated [[Contributor_name:Alekseyev Karrde|Aleks]] for gaining the second highest public vote
<BR/>[[Contributor_name:Korvin|Korvin]] indicated that he would prefer [[Contributor_name:Z0D|Z0D]] as secretary so instead supported [[Contributor_name:Song Li|Song Li]].
<BR/>[[Contributor_name:Z0D|Z0D]] replied he wanted to avoid secretary as he doesn't always have the time in such large stretch
<BR/>[[Contributor_name:ElvenLord|ElvenLord]] stated a preference for [[Contributor_name:Zastrow J|Zastrow]] to be vice-chairman because of his role in CSM 3
<BR/>[[Contributor_name:Sokratesz|Sokratesz]] nominated himself as vice secretary if no one else wants it because whilst his time may be limited he'd like to be involved.
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<BR/>After a suggestion from [[Contributor_name:T'Amber|T'Amber]] to get people to nominate themselves if they were able and willing [[Contributor_name:ElvenLord|ElvenLord]] asked who nominated themselves for the role of vice-chairman.
<BR/>[[Contributor_name:Z0D|Z0D]], [[Contributor_name:Alekseyev Karrde|Alekseyev Karrde]], [[Contributor_name:Song Li|Song Li]] and [[Contributor_name:Zastrow J|Zastrow]] put themselves forward
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<BR/>'''Votes'''
<BR/>Alekseyev Karrde, Sokratesz, Z0D and Korvin voted for Z0D
<BR/>Helen Highwater, Zastrow, ElvenLord voted for Zastrow
<BR/>TeaDaze voted for Alekseyev Karrde
<BR/>Song Li voted for Song Li
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<BR/>With the results confirmed [[Contributor_name:ElvenLord|ElvenLord]] announced [[Contributor_name:Z0D|Z0D]] as Vice-Chairman and asked for who wanted the position of Secretary.
<BR/>[[Contributor_name:TeaDaze|TeaDaze]] and [[Contributor_name:Zastrow J|Zastrow]] put themselves forward
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<BR/>'''Votes'''
<BR/>Sokratesz, Alekseyev Karrde, Song Li, Z0D, TeaDaze and Korvin voted for TeaDaze
<BR/>ElvenLord, Zastrow, Helen Highwater voted for Zastrow
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<BR/>[[Contributor_name:ElvenLord|ElvenLord]] confirmed [[Contributor_name:TeaDaze|TeaDaze]] as CSM4 secretary and asked for vice-secretary volunteers
<BR/>[[Contributor_name:Sokratesz|Sokratesz]], [[Contributor_name:Song Li|Song Li]] and [[Contributor_name:Zastrow J|Zastrow]] were put forward.
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<BR/>'''Votes'''
<BR/>ElvenLord, Zastrow, Z0D, TeaDaze and Helen Highwater voted for Zastrow
<BR/>Alekseyev Karrde, Song Li, Korvin and Sokratesz voted for Song Li
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<BR/>[[Contributor_name:ElvenLord|ElvenLord]] confirmed [[Contributor_name:Zastrow J|Zastrow]] as CSM4 vice-secretary
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<BR/>There was then a discussion about scheduling for the next meeting and some exchange of contact details.
<BR/>Next meeting was planned for 20th December at 18:00 eve-time
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<BR/>The meeting closed at 17:00
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=TL:DR=
[[Contributor_name:ElvenLord|ElvenLord]] takes up his position as incoming Chairman of CSM 4
<BR/>[[Contributor_name:Z0D|Z0D]] voted in as the Vice-Chairmen
<BR/>[[Contributor_name:TeaDaze|TeaDaze]] voted in as the Secretary
<BR/>[[Contributor_name:Zastrow J|Zastrow]] voted in as the Vice-Secretary